game of thrones meme: eight friendships and/or otps [1/8] → Khal Drogo could be cruel as well, and there was never a man more dangerous. She had come to love him all the same.




Tonight, I will look upon your face.




Anonymous said:
I just found that ask you got a couple of weeks ago in the tags, about how could you ship Dany and Drogo if he "basically raped her". Let me tell your followers, that in the book, she is NOT raped; he's actually very, very gentle with her. He keeps saying "No, no", like in the series, but at one point, he asks "No?" as if "Is it okay if I go further?" and she replies "Yes". She's never raped, it's actually consensual.  









Let her clean your wound my sun and stars. It makes me hurt to see you bleed.




wildbearpajamas replied to your post: Different anon here, just to tell that in the first book, their first time is consensual and even, it is Dany who starts the whole thing. In later chapters the author makes it clear that Dany agrees when Drogo come after her to sex.

(haven’t read the book yet, so this is based on the show) i had reservations with them at first, but i got over them and i agree with what you said. i ship it too.

Not gonna lie at first I was wtf-facing like get this poor girl out of here what kind of people do this. But yeah, Westeros and that entire world is one clusterfuck of fucked up and the more I learned about it the less subjective I tried to be. I shipped them more on my second watch through of S1, reading the books would help a lot with that, I’m guessing.




Anonymous said:
Different anon here, just to tell that in the first book, their first time is consensual and even, it is Dany who starts the whole thing. In later chapters the author makes it clear that Dany agrees when Drogo come after her to sex.  

That sounds even better than the show, but even in the show I still ship them. You don’t have to support/accept/want to live in a culture to try to understand it. No matter how many books you read you will never become a part of Dothraki culture and there is so much you will never understand (general you, not a specific you). The fact of the matter is, Drogo loved Dany and Dany loved Drogo and they were both so good for each other. You could just see the changes in them over episodes. Whether or not the way their relationship started out a culturally acceptable way in our society has absolutely zero to do with anything at all and any bias you can have against modern rape culture has NOTHING TO DO with Dothraki and Westeros way of life. I know this is a really hard concept to put into practical use, I’ve seen kids take an entire semester of intro to anthro and other applied anthro fields and still not understand the objectiveness, but if you want to have a legitimate argument about it you have to check your bias at the door.




Anonymous said:
I have an interesting question for you. You say you cant ship certain ships because of their destructive/dangerous ways right? How can you ship Drogo and Daenerys? I mean she was basically raped at the beginning of their "relationship"?  

This question isn’t as interesting as you think it is I promise. I haven’t read book!GoT even though I have the first one on my dresser ‘cause I don’t have time to.

Dothraki culture =/= our culture

Westeros culture =/= our culture

You cannot take your own cultural standards and implement them in a completely different world, that’s called being ethnocentric. How you, I, your neighbors, your loved ones, your strangers, your government, your enemies, etc live in our 21st century “first world” society is swell and all but that’s not how it works bro.

Dany was married to Khal Drogo through the Dothraki wedding ceremony and with that comes cultural expectations and an extremely misogynist and patriarchal society. The fact that Drogo took what she said and wanted into consideration shows how much he truly loved her, and the series did a gorgeous job telling a story of how Drogo helped Dany find her independence and inner strength and Dany gave Drogo a family, ambition and a different perspective on her narrow world.